Rob Schmitt: Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch. He joins us now. And I want to talk more about what we’ve learned here from from what Eileen Cannon has revealed. It’s amazing what’s been exposed in just this one case, and just how filthy this case is.
Tom Fitton: Well, we’ve seen this from the get go. We had asked and and pursued a lawsuit over these exact documents. Got the Stonewall. But we did get documents initially showing that the Biden White House was helping move this case against Trump along. And I don’t know how many meetings you need to have with the White House, and archives, and the special counsel, and Justice Department, before you realize that the Justice Department independent investigation of Trump was about as independent from the Biden White House as the DNC is independent from the Biden White House. It was hand in glove and, to me, it’s a further indication of the vindictive, selective prosecution targeting Trump.
You know, this archives treated Bill Clinton with kid gloves because we saw it directly. They argued with us over tapes he had that were seemingly classified in part, but then they did a 180 to go after Trump. And we see they did it with the support of the white House. The raid on Trump wouldn’t have happened without support on the white House. Of course, it stands to reason that a former president subject to criminal investigations never seen before in American history, that that the idea that that would be done without white House involvement at the most senior levels, you know, it’s obvious that’s what happened, and the documents show it’s proof positive.
And by the way, Mr. Smith talking, I just love him talking about all his expert, prosecutors working for him. He’s trying to hide the names of the senior prosecutors who are working for him from Judicial Watch. He doesn’t want any of those names disclosed.
Rob Schmitt: Yeah
Tom Fitton: Why is that? Mr. Smith Secrecy upon secrecy? Very unusual for criminal investigations of this nature. And kudos to, Judge Cannon for doing this.
Rob Schmitt: Right.
Tom Fitton: They’re hiding the names of witnesses. There are other pleadings that need to come forward so we get a full view of the corruption, behind the Justice Department persecution.
Rob Schmitt: It’s very obvious that at some point, the people that actually run this country made a decision that they could not stand, no matter what the American people want, this man, they could not stand anymore. And they said, you know, they were going to abandon all of the I think, some of the most important tenets of this country, to just destroy him. And now they’re facing, I think, the backlash of it and the exposure of what they have done here in those years after January 6, which, of course, as we know, was was the greatest political moment for the Democrat Party and for the establishment that they could have imagined for.
Does it, does it feel to you like that there are indications that this indict, that they knew this indictment was going to be weak, that Jack Smith knows how weak this case is. They just wanted to get another indictment on him, even if it didn’t go through, because this case specifically looks it just looks really terrible. How do you convict espionage if Jack Smith knew that you had the you had the government telling you to go pick up these boxes, seven months after you left the white House, and you were already working on charges at that point, and there’s a very good chance that they told him to come pick up boxes that had classified information in it. The case is dead.
Tom Fitton: You would think. It’s just another indication it was a set up from the get go. They set Trump up, almost immediately, with the partizans at the archives pretending that he had documents he had no right to, which wasn’t the law, and wasn’t the legal position of the Justice Department previously. So they fooled Trump and his people initially. And of course, then Trump, started figuring out, maybe there’s something going on here, yet he still cooperated, but that wasn’t good enough for him. And I know Smith was desperate to get this indictment, the indictment, because I was involved in this grand jury process. They sent the FBI come knocking at my door before he was appointed. And then they’re like, okay, well, you can come and talk to us informally. You don’t have to come before the grand jury.
Smith gets appointed a few weeks later, and all of a sudden they did this remarkable turnaround. Oh, forget about that promise to come talk informally, we’ve got a grand jury. And of course, I went in and told them they were all wet. But of course they didn’t care because it was all about getting Trump. It was like going before an MSNBC panel, those prosecutors, as opposed to any fact finder, of that, you could be assured that there was justice being fairly administered.
Rob Schmitt: And, you know, I you have to wonder. I mean, we have some transparency here on this case. First off, how does Aileen Cannon not dump the case after what we’ve seen? The optics look so terrible, it looks so fascist to have Biden get off so easy for this Trump facing prison. But also, imagine if we had this transparency in the other Trump cases. Imagine what Juan Juan Merchan is concealing, you know, potentially about Alvin Bragg’s case. He he doesn’t give one legal victory to the Trump team. You know, how dirty these cases all are.
Tom Fitton: Tell you if Trump is elected president. If I were him, I would appoint a special counsel to investigate all of this, this grand conspiracy against him, deprive him and other Americans of their civil rights under color of law, and, the Justice Department, Fulton County up in New York, they should all be brought in and be subject to a full federal civil rights investigation over this election interference and targeting of American and other, targeting of Trump and other innocent Americans.
Rob Schmitt: Yeah. I can’t wait to see the media’s reaction if he pulls that move. They’d go nuts over that Tom Fitton, we appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much.
Tom Fitton: Your welcome. Thank you.
