Over the weekend native Minnesotan David Hoch revealed himself as Nick Shirley’s source on the Joe Pags show “Unshaken and Unafraid with Joe Pags”. Hoch has been investigating the Minnesota public aid fraud for a little over 7 years as a private citizen.
“NICK SHIRLEY’S SOURCE: The Man Who Actually Found the $100B Fraud” – Joe Pags
David Hoch ran for Minnesota governor as well as attorney general years ago. Hoch has been involved in political activities in Minnesota for many years. He is a graduate of the University of Minnesota. Hoch also has political experience as a Minnesota Capitol observer. He was Founder of Minnesotans for Responsible Government. His work history is largely unknown but one job he seemingly held was that of a construction renovation manager which could explain why he could so rapidly assess whether a building was in use or not.
Back in 2001 Hoch and a business associate sued MasterCard for an idea they either knowingly or unknowingly got from something the two had done previously. David Hoch and Joseph Marble sued for copyright infringement. In their lawsuit they argued MasterCard copied their documentary right down to details as the color of the Volkswagen van that Hoch and Marple drove on a 10-day odyssey.
“Twins fans sue over MasterCard ad idea” – The Ledger
We also found back on February 5, 2003, David Hoch filed a complaint with the Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board (“Board”) alleging that Mah Mah Wi No Min Fund-1 (#30348) violated Minnesota Statutes, Chapter 10A. It appears Hoch was apparently right in that filing and won his point.
Some of the most interesting soundbites of the interview with Joe Pags includes:
“I said, ‘We got to drop this like a nuclear bomb on the internet and so I got to have Nick (Shirley) to come in.’ And I just bugged him until he called me. And he called me Friday night at like 9:30 on December 12th. Wow. And he is this of least year 24 or 25. And he says, ‘I’m coming to Minneapolis on Monday. We’re going to start filming on Tuesday.’ I said, ‘I got it all laid out for you. I know the route. I know where we’re going.’ Beautiful. I got all the money that went to these childcare facilities. And Nick’s been around the world and he was shocked. He said this is the worst he’s ever seen anywhere.”
Hoch reported the problem is exclusive to the Somali community of Minneapolis and he thinks they worked with the Democrats. He thinks their fraud model worked so well there, they set up a second operation in Columbus, Ohio, which is said to now have the second largest Somali population in America. Some of the same scenarios have now been reported there by others… daycare centers with no students, offices unoccupied, transportation companies with no riders… etc.
Hoch explained:
“They (Somalis) vote as a solid voting block, and they would all vote together, and they (Democrats) knew they could ballot harvest. And so they (Democrats) started putting them in Cedar Square West, which when I went to University of Minnesota was all student housing. And now it’s all Somali, 100%. In fact, most of the high rises around there are exclusively Somali. And there’s a method they (Somalis) go through harassment and false police reports that forces people out and then they move another Somali in.”
Hoch mentioned two churches specifically who were responsible for this Somali invasion which started 30 to 40 years ago, the ELCA Lutheran and the Catholic churches of Minneapolis.
Hoch and many other Christian Americans question why these two churches did this since Somalis are 100% Muslims and they are ranked as the 179 most corrupt group of people out of 180 by the Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI).
CONCLUSION:
We are not sure why David Hoch opted to reveal his full identity now, given all the death threats Nick Shirley has faced in the last 2 months. Shirley recently revealed in an interview he has had to double his security from 2 to 4 people and get security for his mother and sister as well. We can only speculate that Hoch might be coming forward as we just learned that Nick Shirley has been called to testify on Capitol Hill about his recent videos.
The House Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on Crime and Federal Government Surveillance is holding a hearing centered around various Minnesota fraud scandals. It is set to include testimony from YouTuber and freelance journalist Nick Shirley. He will discuss the alleged fraud he exposed in collection of Federal taxpayer dollars in the Somali (largely) communities of St. Paul and Minneapolis with David Hoch.
The hearing is titled, “When Public Frauds are Abused: Addressing Fraud and the Theft of Taxpayer Dollars.” It is to be held on January 21, and will focus on cases of fraud that took place in Minnesota. It is logical to assume David Hoch will be by his side since Hoch was the main source of all of the documented data provided in the Nick Shirley documentaries.
What was most shocking to come out of Hoch’s mouth this time was the fact he is now speculating that the total amount of fraud committed, could date back to as early as 1988 and could run as high as $100 billion dollars in Minnesota alone!
It makes thinking Americans ponder if these anti-ICE protesters are not being used as useful idiots by the Democrat elites of Minnesota to obstruct the Trump Administration from seeking justice and recovery of a portion of these stolen Federal public aid funds???
David Hoch has called for Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to resign saying he knew about this corruption and fraud of federal dollars since 2020. He did this recently with reporter John Bachman.
Hoch recently talked with podcaster Steve Bannon where he, too, also discussed his personal safety issues in a recent interview.
“David Hoch interviewed by Steve Bannon” – War Room
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