The Trump campaign held a press conference on November 19, 2020 to discuss election fraud with attorney’s Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis.
Transcript
Rudy Giuliani: (00:00)
Well, this is representative of our legal team. Weโre representing President Trump and weโre representing the Trump campaign. When I finish, Sidney Powell and then Jenna Ellis will follow me. And we will present in brief the evidence that weโve collected over the last, I guess it is two weeks. Also, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing are here with me. There are a lot more lawyers working on this, but I guess, weโre the senior lawyers. And Boris Epshteyn.
Rudy Giuliani: (00:40)
So, I guess the best way to describe this is, when we began our representation of the president, we certainly were confronted with a very anomalous set of results. The president way ahead on election night, seven or 800,000 in Pennsylvania, somehow he lost Pennsylvania. We have statisticians willing to testify that thatโs almost statistically impossible to have happened in the period of time that it happened. But, of course, thatโs just speculation.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:12)
As we started investigating, both our investigations and the very patriotic and brave American citizens that have come forward, are extraordinary, extraordinary number of people, extraordinary number of witnesses. And what emerged very quickly is itโs not a single voter fraud in one state. This pattern repeats itself in a number of states. Almost exactly the same pattern, which to any experienced investigator, prosecutor would suggest that there was a plan from a centralized place to execute these various acts of voter fraud, specifically focused on big cities and specifically focused on, as you would imagine, big cities controlled by Democrats, and particularly focused on big cities that have a long history of corruption. The number of voter fraud cases in Philadelphia could fill a library. Just a few weeks ago, there was a conviction for voter fraud and one two weeks before that. And Iโve often said, I guess, sarcastically, but itโs true, the only surprise I would have found in this is that Philadelphia hadnโt cheated in this election, because, for the last 60 years, theyโve cheated in just about every single election. You could say the same thing about Detroit.
Rudy Giuliani: (02:43)
Each one of these cities are cities that are controlled by Democrats, which means they can get away with anything they want to do. It means they have a certain degree of control overโฆ certainly control the election board completely. And they control law enforcement. And unfortunately, they have some friendly judges that will issue ridiculously irrational opinions just to come out in their favor.
Rudy Giuliani: (03:08)
So, letโs start with the specifics, Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania, the margin of victory now for Biden, which is not a victory, itโs a fraud, is 69,140 votes. The reality is that we are now at a count of 682,770 ballots for which we have affidavits that there was no inspection of that ballot at the time that it was entered in the vote. It was a mail ballot.
Rudy Giuliani: (03:45)
Mail ballots are particularly prone to fraud. We were warned about that by Jimmy Carter, president Jimmy Carter and Secretary Baker in a report about a dozen years ago, in which they said that mail balloting is particularly susceptible of fraud, that we should very carefully consider ever doing it, and that it can be taken advantage of. Justice Souter warned us at the same thing in a comment in an election law case. And even the New York Times wrote articles about how dangerous mail voting, mail-in voting was. And this is the first time we ever did it en masse. And I think we proved that all three are prophets. Itโs not only susceptible to fraud, it is easily susceptible to fraud, particularly if you have a plan or scheme, which sounds eerily similar to what Joe Biden told us a few days before the election, that he had the best voter fraud team in the world. But they were good. I donโt know that they were that good because they made significant mistakes, like all crooks do. And we caught them. One of them was pushing out Republican inspectors. Every stateโฆ almost every civilized country, even Tanzania and places that you wouldnโt think of, have rules about inspectors, particularly for mail-in ballots. And why particularly for mail-in ballots? Because they can more easily be defrauded and you canโt check on them.
Rudy Giuliani: (05:26)
People who have never done a mail-in ballot, Iโm going to show you why itโs so easy. Well, you fill out an envelope like this. You put yourโฆ usually in New York, it would be your assembly district and the precinct in which youโre voting. You fill out your name and your address, and you sign it. You then use an inner envelope, and you put the ballot inside the inner envelope. You seal it all, and you send it in.
Rudy Giuliani: (05:56)
When itโs being counted, almost invariably in the United States, up until the mass cheating that went on in this election, a Republican and a Democrat inspector, as well as others, if there are other parties, is allowed to watch the unsealing of this ballot. It used to go on all over America when we conducted honest elections. Because the only time you can ever find out if itโs a fraudulent ballot, is when it is looked at. The minute you approve this, itโs thrown away, gone for eternity. The only thing left is the vote. That could have been Mickey Mouse. That could have been a dead person. That could have been not filled out properly. That could have been the same person 30 times. And all these things have happened, by the way. That could have been nothing filled out. We never know.
Rudy Giuliani: (06:58)
So, for example, the recount being done in Georgia will tell us nothing because these fraudulent ballots will just be counted again because they wouldnโt supply the signatures to match the ballots. So, it means nothing to have counted these ballots, because for example, in Pennsylvania, where we have probably our most precise evidence, 682,770 of these ballots were cast, put in, and they werenโt inspected, which renders them ballots that are null and void, cannot be counted, have to be removed from the vote. Why? For several reasons, not the least of which is, that was basically only one of two places in the state where it was done. So, in the other parts of the state, there was a legitimate inspection of the ballots. So, if you have two different standards in different parts of the state, one favoring one part of the state, the other disfavoring the other part of the state, thatโs a classic violation of the equal protection clause of the United States constitution, Bush V Gore being the most recent case that teaches that.
Rudy Giuliani: (08:15)
Thatโs not the only fraud that went on in Pennsylvania. All of the other frauds carried out on the other states by the Democrat bosses happened there as well. For example, if youโve made a mistake in that ballot and you lived in Philadelphia or in Pittsburgh, you were allowed to fix the mistake. But, if you lived in what would be considered more Republican or Trump parts of the state, you were given no such right.
Rudy Giuliani: (08:52)
One of our plaintiffs, Mr. Henry cast a absentee ballot, and he failed to put it in the secure envelope inside. He just put it in open, naked. That ballot was cast aside because it was invalid because that breaks the privacy of the vote. In Pittsburgh and in Philadelphia, if they noticed that there wasnโt an inner envelope, theyโd contact the voter and allow them to vote again. Or, if he didnโt fill it out completely, or if he made a mistake and didnโt sign his full name, he was allowed to cure it. There is no such provision under the law of Pennsylvania. The Democrat secretary of state made that up in order to maximize the votes in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. And to minimize the votes in the other parts of the state, clearly illegal, clearly voter fraud, easily provable, hundreds of witnesses, maybe thousands.
Rudy Giuliani: (09:57)
To give you another example, we have 17,000 provisional ballots cast in Pittsburgh. Do you know what a provisional ballot is? Provisional ballot usually happens this way, and about 15 of the 17,000 happened this way, you walk in and you say, Iโm here to vote today. Oh, Mr. Giuliani, you already voted. I did? I donโt remember voting. Oh, yes. Yes. You cast an absentee ballot. No, I didnโt. Yes, you did. No, I didnโt. Yes, you did.
Rudy Giuliani: (10:34)
So, why does that happen 17,000 times in Pittsburgh? People walked in thinkingโฆ actually 15,000, to be precise. Why did it happen 15,000 times that people in Pittsburgh walked in to vote and they had already voted, according to the Democrat election machine? Did they forget? That many people with bad memories in Pittsburgh? Or is the following correct, that, as witnesses will testify, they were instructed by the Democrat bosses when they had a ballot in which there was no one registered, just assign it to somebody, just assign it to Rudy Giuliani. So, maybe Rudy Giuliani wonโt show up to vote. And, if he does show up to vote, weโll give him a provisional ballot. That is what we call circumstantial evidence of the fraud.
Rudy Giuliani: (11:36)
The direct evidence of the fraud are the people who will testify that, in fact, thatโs what happened to them, as well as the 50 to 60 witnesses we have for the way they were treated and not allowed to inspect the ballots. They werenโt just not allowed to do it. They were pushed. A few cases, they were assaulted. In all cases, they were put in a corral so far away. Probably the closest they got is from here to the back of that room. We could do like aโฆ Did you all watch My Cousin Vinny? You know the movie? Itโs one of my favorite law movies because he comes from Brooklyn. And when, the nice lady who said she saw, and then he says to her, โHow many fingers do I got up?โ And she says a three. Well, she was too far away to see it was only two. These people were further away than My Cousin Vinny was from the witness. They couldnโt see a thing.
Rudy Giuliani: (12:41)
Now, I donโt know. Youโre going to tell me that 60 people are lying? They didnโt just tell me this. They swore under penalty of perjury, which is something no Democrat has ever done. You donโt even ask Biden about this. You donโt put them under penalty of perjury. He doesnโt even get asked questions about it. He doesnโt get asked questions about all the evidence of the crimes that he committed. These people are under penalty of perjury, the names that are on our affidavit. They swear that they werenโt allowed to carry out their function as inspectors.
Rudy Giuliani: (13:20)
And itโs not just a technical thing. Thereโs a reason they did it. Why would you not allow people to carry out the function theyโve been allowed to do for 50 years, 60 years? Why wouldnโt you allow inspections of those ballots? Because you knew you were going to use those ballots to catch Biden up. And you had a big road ahead of you. You had to catch him up for 700,000 to 800,000 votes that he was behind. And the only way you were going to do it were with the mail-in ballots. You couldnโt have a Democrat and Republican inspector around. They donโt even have Democrats watching, because theyโd be afraid that theyโd be honest Democrats who would say, โYouโre cheating.โ
Rudy Giuliani: (14:09)
So, that takes us to Michigan where there was an honest Democrat who said they were cheating. And weโll show you her affidavit because I know you keep reporting falsely that we have no evidence, that we have no specific acts of fraud. Thatโs because the coverage of this has been almost as dishonest as the scheme itself. The American people are entitled to know this. You donโt have a right to keep it from them. You donโt have a right to lie about it. And you are. I mean, you donโt report to them that a citizen of this country, a very fine woman who was willing to allow me to give you her name. I canโt give you all these affidavits. Because, if I do, these people will be harassed. Theyโll be threatened. They may lose their job. They will lose their friends. Weโve lost lawyers in this case because theyโve been threatened. Weโve had lawyers that need protection. Whatโs going on in this country is horrible. And the censorship that youโre imposing is making it worse.
Rudy Giuliani: (15:18)
But Jesse Jacob is an adult citizen and a resident of the state of Michigan. Sheโs been an employee of the City of Detroit for decades. I know her age, but she can tell you her age. She was assigned to voting duties in September, and she was trained by the City of Detroit and the State of Michigan. She was basically trained to cheat. She said that I was instructed by my supervisor to adjust the mailing date of these absentee ballot packages to be dated earlier than when they were actually sent in. The supervisor made that announcement for all workers to engage in that fraudulent practice. Thatโs not me saying that. Thatโs this American citizens saying that under oath.
Rudy Giuliani: (16:14)
I donโt know. Maybe you could say sheโs lying, but you canโt say thereโs no evidence. This is what we call evidence. This is direct evidence not circumstantial. I tried many, many cases, as did all my colleagues here. You put a witness on a witness stand, the witness is testifying to their own knowledge. This witness goes on the witness stand and she will say, โI was told to adjust the date on the absentee ballots. I witnessed election workers and employees going over to the voting booth with voters in order to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.โ Completely illegal. She will testify to that. I donโt know. Bidenโs people can cross examine her, but you canโt just throw it away. Gee, thereโs no evidence. Next time you say that youโll be lying because there is evidence. By the way, this is public. You can all get it. Itโs attached to the complaint in Constantino vs. the City of Detroit.
Rudy Giuliani: (17:24)
Then she was instructed, โBy my supervisor not to ask for a driverโs license or any photo ID when a person was trying to vote. Donโt ask for identification. Why would you not ask for identification? Because you knew that a lot of people not entitled to vote were going to come in and early vote. Because you knew that illegal immigrants were going to be allowed to vote. You knew, if you lived in Philadelphia, unless youโre [Italian 00:17:56]. Thatโs an Italian expression for stupid. Unless youโre stupid, you knew that a lot of people were coming over from Camden to vote. They do every year. It happens all the time in Philly. Itโs about as frequent as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagle football game. Happens all the time, all the time.
Rudy Giuliani: (18:14)
And as it allowed to happen because it is a Democrat corrupt city and has been for years, many, many years. And they carried it out in places they could get away with it. They didnโt carry it out in neutral places. They didnโt carry it out in Republican places. They didnโt carry it out where the law is respected. They carried it out in a corrupt city where the district attorney releases criminals on mass, which is why it has so much crime.
Rudy Giuliani: (18:45)
She also said, โI observed a large number of people who came to the satellite location to vote in person, but they had already applied for and submitted an absentee ballot.โ So, she observed a lot of people voting twice. Again, this is Jesse Jacob, not me. โI was instructed not to invalidate any ballots and not to look for any deficiency in the ballots. Why would you do that? Because youโre cheating, on purpose cheating, intentionally cheating. Youโre cheating as a institution. This is an instruction from the election commissioner or the employer to the worker. โDonโt look for any deficiencies in the ballot.โ โI was instructed not to look at any of the signatures on the absentee ballots. โIf she was instructed not to look for any of the signatures on the absentee ballots, why the heck do you sign it in the first place? In order to identify it. She was instructed not to do that because many of the absentee ballots were fraudulent, and they knew that, and they didnโt want to have account of that.
Rudy Giuliani: (20:07)
โOn November four, 2020, I was in strict structured to improperly predate the absentee ballot when the receipt date was after November 3rd, 2020.โ Now, this is really significant because Justice Alito of the Supreme Court instructed Pennsylvania that any ballot that comes in after eight oโclock on November 3rd, 2020 had to be put aside and not opened because thereโs a question as to its legality and its constitutionality. What sheโs telling you is that they blatantly disregarded that order, that they took ballots that were marked the fourth, and the fifth, and the sixth, and they marked it down for the third in blatant disregard of the order of the United States Supreme Court.
Rudy Giuliani: (20:59)
I donโt know if sheโs a Democrat or Republican. I assume, if sheโs working with the city of Detroit, that sheโs a Democrat. I assume, but I may be wrong. Sheโs a citizen. Iโve never met her, never coached her. And Iโd like you to note that itโs signed under penalties of perjury. We have a hundred more of these. I canโt show them to you because those people donโt want to be harassed. They donโt want to have their lives torn apart by the goons on the other side. We donโt do that to them. Theyโve done that to a lot of our people. Theyโve done it for four years. And itโs outrageous that itโs tolerated. And itโs tolerated because you condone, it in the press, and you donโt cover it, and you donโt condemn it. And it shouldnโt happen to a Republican or a Democrat. A lawyer shouldnโt have to withdraw from a case because heโs representing the President of the United States.
Rudy Giuliani: (22:11)
There are many more affidavits here. Iโd like to read them all to you, but I donโt have the time. You should have had the time and energy to go look for them. Thatโs your job, like itโs my job to defend the president and to represent the president. Itโs your job to read these things and not falsely report that thereโs no evidence. Do you know how many affidavits we have in the Michigan case? 220 affidavits. Theyโre not all public, but eight of them are. Four affiants here, those are people who give affidavits, report an incident that, under any other circumstances, would have been on the front page of all your newspapers if it didnโt involve the hatred that you have, irrational, pathological hatred that you have for the president. What they swear to is that, at 4:30 in the morning, a truck pulled up to the Detroit center where they were counting.
Rudy Giuliani: (23:03)
A truck pulled up to the Detroit center where they were counting ballots. The people thought it was food, so they all ran to the truck. Wasnโt food. It was thousands and thousands of ballots and the ballots were in garbage cans, they were in paper bags, they were in cardboard boxes, and they were taken into the center. They were put on a number of tables. At that time, they thought all the Republican inspectors had left, all but two had and an employee of Dominion who we will address a little bit later, Dominion.
Rudy Giuliani: (23:42)
Hereโs what they jointly swear to, that every ballot that they could see, everything they could hear, these were ballots for Biden. When they saw a ballot, these were ballots only for Biden, meaning there was no down-ticket. Just Biden. Many of them didnโt have anything on the outer envelope because these ballots were produced very quickly, very swiftly and there are estimated to be a minimum of 50,000, maximum of 100,000. Many of them were triple-counted, which means they were put into the counting machine this way. Once, twice, three times. I didnโt see that. I donโt know that but for the fact that three American citizens are willing to swear to it. Weโre not going to let them go to court and do that? Weโre going to let this election go by when there are in this case 60 witnesses that can prove what Iโm saying to you and other acts of fraud in Michigan? I mean whatโs happened to this country if weโre going to let that happen? What happened to this country if weโre going to cover that up? We let Al Gore carry on an election dispute longer than this one has been going on for one state and for chads. This happened in Pennsylvania, it happened in Michigan, Michigan probably right now, if I count up the B, just one case alone, Trump v. Benson, a case that we dismissed today because that case was attempting to get the Wayne County Board of Supervisors to de-certify. Well they did. They de-certified. That case has 100 affidavits and 100 affidavits show essentially what Iโve talked to you about. Counting ballots improperly, counting them three and four times, having people vote three and four times, changing and backdating ballots to the point of at least 300,000 illegitimate ballots that we can specifically identify. The margin in Michigan is 146,121 and these ballots were all cast basically in Detroit that Biden won 80-20. So you see it changes the result of the election in Michigan if you take out Wayne County. So itโs a very significant case. That is being raised in the case of Costantino v. The City of Detroit. Not by us, but by an individual plaintiff. We are helping and assisting in that case however and you can find all the affidavits that you want filed in that case. You can find out theyโre not just allegations, theyโre allegations supported by sworn testimony which is a lot better than Joe Biden has ever done on anything. He doesnโt answer questions, much less give you sworn affidavits.
Rudy Giuliani: (26:53)
Wisconsin. Wisconsin had a very small margin, 20,544 last time I looked. In Wisconsin, without going into great detail, very similar plan. Republicans shut out in the City of Milwaukee and also in Madison. Republicans almost uniformly shut out from the absentee process. Not allowed to inspect, not allowed to look at the ballots. We have in Milwaukee and in the state of Wisconsin a much stricter law. Wisconsin doesnโt allow mail-in ballots. They didnโt buy into the big mail-in ballot situation. Wisconsin, when you look at their constitution, almost seems to not like absentee ballots. They state itโs not a right, a privilege, and they have very, very strict procedures and the strict procedure says that you canโt be given an absentee ballot, you have to personally apply for it. Itโs illegal basically to solicit a vote and they have actually many reasons for it that probably goes back to their progressive days, when I say progressive, I mean late 19th century early 20th century progressive, when that really meant progressive, not retrogressive.
Rudy Giuliani: (28:15)
So there are 60,000 ballots in Milwaukee County and 40,000 ballots in Madison that as far as we can tell and this is why we are auditing because we have very good information that numbers are going to come out about here that donโt have applications. Under the law of the State of Wisconsin, already decided, if thereโs no application for an absentee ballot, the absentee ballot is thrown away. This all happened in two places in Wisconsin. Didnโt happen in Northern Wisconsin. Didnโt happen in Republican Wisconsin. Didnโt happen in neutral Wisconsin, where there are equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats, it happened in a place where the vote was 75, 80% for the Democrat. You take away any number of those and that 20,000 lead disappears. In other words, if you count the lawful votes, Trump won Wisconsin by a good margin. Indeed, if you count the lawful votes in Pennsylvania, he won it by about 300,000 votes.
Rudy Giuliani: (29:29)
Also in the lawsuit filed in Wisconsin which is really a petition because of their procedures, there were no inspectors provided for the count of the illegal ballots. There were numerous backdated ballots, weโre just counting them now. Run over into the thousands and there were many precincts in which there was an overvote. Now let me explain to you what an overvote is which is something you should have explained to the American people because itโs about the clearest circumstantial evidence of massive fraud that you can have. An overvote is if 200% of the people who are registered in a district vote. Think about that. 200% of the registered voters in a district vote. What does that mean? That means somebody voted twice, that means somebody whoโs not entitled to vote voted, an illegal, a person from another city or state, a person whoโs not registered, but what it means is that those are illegitimate votes. You donโt have an overvote of 200% or 300%. You donโt have an overvote of 100%. Most precincts donโt have 100% turnout. In fact, classically itโs considered to be an overvote if you go over 80%. Well in Michigan and Wisconsin, we have overvotes in numerous precincts, of 150%, 200%, and 300%.
Rudy Giuliani: (31:05)
One of the reasons why the two Republicans did not certify in Wayne, Michigan, Wayne County, Michigan is because the overvote was so high. Monstrously high in about two-thirds of the precincts in the city of Detroit. Which means magically two and three times the number of registered voters turned out to vote. In fact we have precincts in which two times the number of people who live there, including children, voted. Thatโs absurd. The frustration of this is, what Iโm describing to you is a massive fraud. It isnโt a little teeny one. It isnโt 100 votes switched here or there. Georgia. Weโre about to file a major lawsuit in Georgia. Thatโll be filed probably tomorrow. I donโt need to go through it. Virtually the same things Iโve told you before. In the City of Atlanta, Republicans were not allowed to watch the absentee mail-in ballot process. Inspections completely cast aside and we have numerous double voters, we have numerous out-of-state voters, and we have specific evidence of intimidation and changes of vote. That will all be in the lawsuit that comes out tomorrow.
Rudy Giuliani: (32:37)
Arizona is a state that we are looking at very, very carefully. I would say weโre probably going to bring a lawsuit in Arizona. More than probably, I think we are going to bring a lawsuit in Arizona. Weโre still collecting that evidence and the state that weโre looking at that would surprise you is we have very, very significant amount of fraud allegations in the state of New Mexico, and we have a significant number of allegations in the state of Virginia. I donโt know yet whether the number in Virginia will reach a number that can turn the election. In the states that we have indicated in red, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona, we more than double the number of votes needed to overturn the election in terms of provable, illegal ballots. All you got to do to find out if Iโm misleading you at all is to look at the lawsuit. Look whatโs alleged, look at the affidavits, maybe we can supply more affidavits. In order to do it, I have to get permission from the people but in the materials I have here there were at least 10 that come from citizens. We have a thousand at least and weโre getting more every day and there are other aspects of this fraud that at this point I really canโt reveal. This is really enough. Itโs enough to overturn any election. Itโs disgraceful what happened and Iโll conclude by asking you to just think about this for a minute. What happened on the morning of November 3 when they were going to count this new kind of ballot, this mail-in ballot? Did every Democrat leader in Pennsylvania and in Michigan and in Wisconsin and in Georgia and in Nevada and in Arizona, they all wake up and all separately have the same idea? Did they all separately have the idea that we are going to โฆ Weโre going to put Republican inspectors in pens, weโre not going to let them look at mail-in or absentee ballots? They all independently come up with that, like just by coincidence. They say, โHey, you know, weโre going to put the Republicans in pens and corrals. Weโre going to do it in Pittsburgh, weโre going to do it in Philadelphia, weโre going to do it in Detroit. Weโre going to do it in Milwaukee, weโre going to do it in Las Vegas, weโre going to do it in Phoenix. What did I miss? Oh weโre going to do it in Atlanta.โ
Rudy Giuliani: (35:16)
Or isnโt the logical conclusion that I think any jury would accept if they heard this evidence, that somebody had this plan? Maybe that was always the plan? To do these โฆ This very, very questionable form of voting, which has been criticized by President Carter, by Secretary Baker, by most experts on election reform? I think the logical conclusion is this is a common plan, a common scheme, that comes right directly from the Democrat Party and it comes from the candidate. Clearly, thatโs the reason why Hillary Clinton said donโt concede even if youโre losing. Thatโs the reason, we had a Freudian slip by the candidate and he said he had the best voter fraud team in the country. Thatโs the reason why he probably didnโt have to go out and campaign. He had to have known what they were going to do. This had to be planned in advance. Iโm kind of checking, did they go to the same contractor to get the corrals to put the Republicans in?
Rudy Giuliani: (36:27)
This is a disgraceful thing that was done in this country. Probably not much more disgraceful than the things these people did in office which you didnโt and donโt bother to cover and conceal from the American people but we let this happen, we use largely a Venezuelan voting machine in essence to count our vote. We let this happen, weโre going to become Venezuela. We cannot let this happen to us. We cannot allow these crooks, because thatโs what they are, to steal an election from the American people. They elected Donald Trump. They didnโt elect Joe Biden. Joe Biden is in the lead because of the fraudulent ballots, the illegal ballots, that were produced and that were allowed to be used, after the election was over. Give us an opportunity to prove it in court and we will.
Rudy Giuliani: (37:28)
Now Iโm going to ask Sidney Powell to describe to you what we can describe about another totally outrageous situation. I donโt think most Americans know that our ballots get calculated, many of them, outside the United States and are completely open to hacking, completely open to change, and itโs being done by a company that specializes in voter fraud. Iโll let Sidney describe that to you.
Sidney Powell: (38:02)
Thank you Rudy. What we are really dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States. The Dominion voting systems, the Smartmatic technology software and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here in as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election after one constitutional referendum came out the way he did not want it to come out. We have one very strong witness who has explained how it all works. His affidavit is attached to the pleadings of Lin Wood in the lawsuit he filed in Georgia. It is a stunning, detailed affidavit because he was with Hugo Chavez while โฆ He was being briefed on how it worked, he was with Hugo Chavez when he saw it operate to make sure the election came out his way. That was the express purpose for creating this software. He has seen it operate and as soon as he saw the multiple states shut down the voting on the night of the election, he knew the same thing was happening here, that that was what had gone on.
Sidney Powell: (39:40)
Now the software itself was created with so many variables and so many back doors that can be hooked up to the internet or a thumbdrive stuck in it or whatever, but one of its most characteristic features is its ability to flip votes. It can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system and thatโs what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in. Thatโs when they came in the backdoor with all the mail-in ballots, many of which they had actually fabricated, some were on pristine paper with identically matching perfect circle dots for Mr. Biden. Others were shoved in in batches, theyโre always put in in a certain number of batches and people would rerun the same batch. This corresponds to our statistical evidence that shows incredible spikes in the vote counts at particular times and that corresponds to eyewitness testimony of numerous people who have come forward and said they saw the ballots come in the backdoor at that time.
Sidney Powell: (41:06)
Notably the Dominion executives are nowhere to be found now. They are moving their offices overnight to different places. Their office in Toronto was shared with one of the Soros entities, one of the leaders of the Dominion Project overall is Lord Malloch-Brown, Mr. Sorosโ number two person in the U.K., and part of his organization. There are ties of the Dominion leadership to the Clinton Foundation and to other known politicians in this country. Just to give you a brief description of how this worked, Iโm going to quote from a letter that was written and I will read that to make sure I get the quotes right. This person was objecting to the United States acquisition of Sequoia Voting Systems by Smartmatic, a foreign-owned company. I believe this transaction raises exactly the sort of foreign ownership issues that [Siphius 00:42:10] is best positioned to examine for national security purposes. Itโs undisputed that Smartmatic is foreign-owned and it has acquired Sequoia, they keep changing the names as they go along. Different times when a problem comes up, they just create another corporation and call it a different name, but it was a voting machine company doing business in the United States.
Sidney Powell: (42:30)
Sequoia voting machines were used to record over 125,000,000 votes during the 2004 presidential election in the United States. Smartmatic now acknowledges that Antonio Mugica, a Venezuelan businessman, has controlling interest in Smartmatic but the company has not revealed who all the Smartmatic owners are. According to the press, Smartmaticโs owners are hidden through a web of offshore private entities and that is in fact true. Smartmatic has been associated with the Venezuelan government led by Hugo Chavez which is openly hostile to the United States and of course as we all communistic and really brutalizing its own people. The system has been continued there by Mr. Maduro and ensured his election. Smartmaticโs possible connection to the Venezuelan government poses a potential national security concern in the context of its acquisition of Sequoia because electronic voting machines are susceptible to tampering and insiders are in the best position to engage in such tampering. This letter expresses concerns of the Chicago 2006 primary election and it ends by saying the products and services that are of Venezuelan origin and evaluate Smartmaticโs ownership to determine who could have influence and control over these and other Sequoia products and services are important to the national security of the United States.
Sidney Powell: (43:56)
This letter was written to Hank Paulson on October 6, 2006 by Congresswoman Carolyn B. Maloney. Senators Klobuchar and Warren have raised these concerns as recently as December 2019. Why our government has not taken them seriously is beyond my comprehension unless they have some of the three letter agencies have used them themselves. In other parts of the world we know that the technology was exported to affect an election in Argentina. Thatโs admitted by our friend who wrote the affidavit about Hugo Chavez and his interest in Smartmatic. Again in 2006, Carolyn Maloney wrote The Honorable John Snow, the Secretary of the Treasury about the issues, speaking of Smartmaticโs leadership. One of the Smartmatic patent holders, Eric Coomer I believe his name is, is on the web as being recorded in a conversation with ANTIFA members saying that he had the election rigged for Mr. Biden, nothing to worry about here and they were going to f Trump. His social media is filled with hatred for the president and for the United States of America as a whole as are the social media accounts of many other Smartmatic people.
Sidney Powell: (45:29)
There has been widespread use of this, Dominion itself is utilized in 2,000 jurisdictions in 30 states. It has been uncertifiable in multiple states. You realized all the problems that it had including Texas. Experts have described it across the board from a Princeton group of three professors to experts that we have talked to about its end user vulnerabilities. People can admittedly go in and change whatever they want. They can set the ratio of votes from one thing to another. They can say that โ
Sidney Powell: (46:03)
โฆ show of votes from one thing to another, they can say that a Biden vote counts as 1.25, and a Trump vote counts as 0.75 and those may be the numbers that were actually used here. Itโs not just the swing States that were affected. The algorithm was likely run across the country to affect the entire election. Like I said, we only discovered it this year because of the overwhelming number of votes for President Trump in the swing States that caused the machines to have to shut down for them to backfill for adding votes.
Sidney Powell: (46:36)
We have evidence of different numbers of votes being injected into the system, the same identical unique six digit number multiple times in at least two States that weโve analyzed so far. Iโm talking about like 341,542 votes for Biden and 100,012 for Trump. Thereโs no explanation, no logical explanation for the same numbers being injected 20 minutes apart into the machine. The software manual itself, you can download it from the internet and I would encourage you all to read it, because it specifically advertises some of these things as features of the system. Why it was ever allowed into this country is beyond my comprehension and why nobody has dealt with it is absolutely appalling.
Sidney Powell: (47:27)
The machines were easily accessible to hackers. Thereโs video on the net that will explain to you how a kid with a cell phone can hack one of these voting machines. Thereโs been no oversight of Dominion or its software. Workers in each county were trained by Dominion, but thereโs no evidence of any monitoring otherwise. We have testimony of different workers admitting that they were trained how to dispose of Trump votes and add to Biden votes. The software has a feature pursuant to which you can drag and drop any number of batches of votes to the candidate of your choice, or simply throw them away. So we have mathematical evidence in a number of states of massive quantities of Trump votes being trashed, just simply put in the trash like you would on your computer with any file and Biden votes being injected. Thatโs addition to the flipping.
Sidney Powell: (48:23)
I mean, it really happens in two ways. Thereโs an algorithm that runs that automatically flips all the votes, and then each operator has the ability to go in override settings. They can ignore a signature, they could ignore the top line of the ballot. They can go down ballot and select who they want to change the results for. The gentleman who founded Smartmatic, thereโs video of him on the internet, explaining that, yes, in at least one occasion, he admits, they changed a million votes with no problem. Many of the jurisdictions that have had this problem might not have known of the issues, but many did. I think a full-scale criminal investigation needs to be undertaken immediately by the Department of Justice and by every stateโs equivalent, Attorney Generalโs Office or State Investigatory Unit, because thereโs evidence of different benefits being provided to the people who spent 100 million dollars of taxpayer money at the last minute for their state to get the Dominion voting systems put in, in time for this election in different ways.
Sidney Powell: (49:37)
Thereโs one person that a lawyer told me got, โelection insuranceโ, meaning that he would be able to make sure he was elected. Iโm sure they explained that feature in detail to many people who expressed interest in putting this voting system in. Texas denied certification of the Dominion system in 2019, but there are no doubt issues with the software that Texas did use, unbeknownst to Texas, I would imagine, since they went to great trouble to examine the Dominion systems and reject them, but other software, the source code that does the alterations is embedded we have been told in the source code all across the country, in all the voting machines.
Sidney Powell: (50:21)
Thereโs no doubt it has been used to alter elections in other countries. We know specifically that Venezuela exported it for that purpose to Argentina and other Latin American companies, to make sure that the corrupt rulers who were willing to pay the highest price for being in office were allowed to rig their elections.
Sidney Powell: (50:41)
This is stunning, heartbreaking, infuriating, and the most unpatriotic acts I can even imagine for people in this country to have participated in, in any way, shape or form. I want the American public to know right now that we will not be intimidated. American patriots are fed up with the corruption from the local level, to the highest level of our government. We are going to take this country back. We are not going to be intimidated. We are not going to back down. We are going to clean this mess up now. President Trump won by a landslide. We are going to prove it, and we are going to reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for freedom.
Reporter 1: (51:39)
How come you are not suing in the Wisconsin counties that use this? Why are you only doing a recount-
Jenna Ellis: (51:43)
Excuse me, weโre not at the questions at this point. So excuse [crosstalk 00:05:48 weโre not at the questions at this point. My name is Jenna Ellis, and Iโm the Senior Legal Advisor to the Trump campaign and Iโd like to just explain it now where weโve been and where weโre at and what you can expect from this process. So what you have heard, Iโm sure in the fake newspapers tomorrow will be one of two things. Either, there was not sufficient evidence that weโve presented or we spoke too long. Okay? So what youโve heard now is basically an opening statement. This is what you can expect to see when we get to court to actually have a full trial on the merits to actually show this evidence in court and prove our case. This is not a Law and Order episode where everything is neatly wrapped up in 60 minutes.
Jenna Ellis: (52:33)
For those of you who are here in this room, or have maybe tuned out in other networks, clearly youโve never been court reporters. Trials take time. Putting on evidence takes time. This is basically an opening statement so the American people can understand what the networks have been hiding and what they refuse to cover, because all of your fake news headlines are dancing around the merits of this case and are trying to de- legitimized what we are doing here. Let me be very clear that our objective is to make sure to preserve and protect election integrity. President Trump has been saying from day one, that this is about maintaining free and fair elections in this country. It is not about overturning an outcome. It is about making sure that election integrity is preserved and every American should want that. If every American is not on board with that, you have to ask yourself why. If your fake news network is not covering this or allowing you to cover it fairly and accurately, you should ask yourself why. This is absolutely a legitimate legal basis. We have been asked to provide an entire case that generally would take years in civil litigation. Iโve been a prosecutor, I have tried cases with far simpler facts. One thing happened in a matter of minutes and it still takes days. We go through a jury process. This is the court of public opinion right now. We are not trying our case in the court of public opinion, because if we were, we would get unbiased jurors, I would strike 99% of you from the jury and I would be allowed to, because of the fake news coverage you provide. Youโre not unbiased jurors. Until you step out of your role as a journalist and actually go into a courtroom and you are a judge on a bench that has sworn an oath to be unbiased in our separation of powers, then your opinion does not matter.
Jenna Ellis: (54:35)
The facts matter. The truth matters. And if you are fair reporters, you will cover that fairly and appropriately and you will allow coverage of our media team here and our legal team. That is absolutely shocking, that all you cover are around the margins, and Iโve seen all of you taking pictures right now, and I can anticipate what your headlines are going to be. If you are not willing to talk about the evidence that has been presented, then that is absolutely unacceptable for journalistic standards. This is an opening statement. This is something where we have told you what the evidence will show and we have given you a brief description. That happens in a courtroom all the time, where thatโs not the fact-finding process, that is just an overview. That is what we have given you today, because the American people deserve to know what we have uncovered in the last couple of weeks. Remember, this is such a short timeframe, and this is an elite strikeforce team that is working on behalf of the President and the campaign to make sure that our Constitution is protected. We are a nation of rules, not a nation of rulers. There is not someone that just gets to pick who the next President is outside the will of the American people. That is our task, because when we talk about voter fraud, itโs actually election official fraud. That cannot stand. The Constitution requires that the State Legislatures are the ones that make election law. It still has to go by the US Constitution. But what has happened in this case is that state and local level officials and all the way up, have changed the rules. Thatโs what the Democrats do. If they donโt like the rules, they change them and they change them at the last minute, they manipulate them. They want to tear down our American system.
Jenna Ellis: (56:28)
Our founders were so brilliant that they anticipated this, that there would be corruption. There would be foreign influence, there would be attempts to manipulate the outcome of the election, especially with who they called our Chief Magistrate. I would encourage all of you to go home and actually read Alexander Hamiltonโs Federalist No.68 and see what he described as an advocacy position to adopt and ratify the Electoral College and the process by which we select our President. We select our President through the Electoral College, not because it disenfranchises voters, but because it is a security mechanism for exactly the type of corruption that we are uncovering. Every American should be grateful and thankful that our founders had the foresight to put in those protections and provisions to make sure that your legitimate legal vote is not disenfranchised. That is what we are advocating for.
Jenna Ellis: (57:25)
We want to make sure to protect election integrity and your President, President Trump, we are so proud that he is in this fight, because he understands that when he swore his oath of office, he swore an oath to uphold and defend the United States Constitution. That is what he is doing and that is what we are doing. We are confident that through this multiple pathway to victory, we will get to the actual outcome that the evidence shows, but this is not about overturning an election on our part. Itโs about making sure that we protect and preserve free and fair elections for all future American elections. If the United States caves to corruption or this type of election integrity disaster, then no election will be secure from here on out, and we all need to be keenly aware of that. We are the representatives here that are standing in this gap and defending President Trump and defending you, the American people at the end of the day. This is ultimately about the United States of America and we want to make sure to protect and defend that.
Jenna Ellis: (58:37)
As my colleagues have said, we will not back down. We wonโt be intimidated. President Trump will not be intimidated. You, the American people should not be intimidated. You, the press, should cover this fairly and should know that this matters to election integrity and it matters to the future of our nation. So we have given you an overview, but recognize this is not a court of law. We will get there and we have time and we have constitutional provisions that will step in when we show the corruption and the irredeemably challenged and overturned votes that are absolutely corrupt in all of these counties. It is irredeemably compromised. We will show that, but you have to give us that opportunity. This has been just our opening statement and we have an opportunity to get there and we have time and we will do that. This is the United States of America, and we stand proudly for President Donald J. Trump. Thank you.
Rudy Giuliani: (59:33)
One more point?
Sidney Powell: (59:34)
Yep. The world is watching this. I have gotten multiple emails from people in other countries who watched the same pattern happened there. We have witness testimony that the same things were done in those countries, as this was exported from Venezuela by Maduro and by Mr. Chavez and by Cuba. Of course, we know China also has a substantial presence in Venezuela and substantial interest in making sure that President Trump does not continue in office. This is the consummate foreign interference in our election in the most criminal way you can possibly imagine. It must be shut down.
Sidney Powell: (01:00:19)
We know, for example, that one of the Dominionโs highest level employees or officers went to Detroit himself to man the Detroit Operation Center, where he could watch the votes coming in real time and decide what file folder in the system to put those votes into. Thatโs why you see massive spikes after hours when people were told that all the votes were in and all the votes were counted. Many Dominion employees have already reached out to us to tell us the truth. They are Americans who want ensure election integrity like we do. I would encourage every Dominion, or Smartmatic employee, who is fed up with the corruption in this country to come forward as soon as possible, because these are serious federal offenses that I am confident the Department of Justice will be in pursuit of in very short order, if they are not already.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:01:15)
All right. A few questions.
Reporter 2: (01:01:17)
Yeah. Mayor Giuliani, this sort of remind of 30 years ago they had federal judges doing consent degrees over elections, they got a federal judge overseeing the election [inaudible 01:01:30]. Will you be asking that in Georgia, where you have two Senate races, to have the US District Court judges and Federal authorities monitoring elections?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:01:39)
I canโt say whatโs going to be done about [crosstalk 00:15:43].
Reporter 2: (01:01:43)
[crosstalk 01:01:43] operation-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:01:43)
Iโm sorry, in what county?
Reporter 2: (01:01:45)
[crosstalk 01:01:45] County, Pennsylvania.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:01:45)
Yes.
Reporter 2: (01:01:47)
[crosstalk 01:01:47] Operation Gray Lord, I donโt know if you were informed of that.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:01:52)
Yep. I know about it. I really canโt give you an opinion on that. I think obviously every election official should learn something from this and be very, very careful with the next election. I know this is a lot of information that weโve given you, probably because weโre frustrated with what we keep reading and hearing in the censored press, which is that we have no evidence. We have no specifics. We have no backup of what weโre saying. You largely ignore the affidavits that are filed. Whether you agree or disagree with an affidavit, itโs evidence. You canโt sayโฆ I mean, youโre just lying to the American people when you say thereโs no evidence. Sidney was giving you information that come from affidavits from other people, that are given under oath. I was explaining things to you from affidavits, that come from other people, American citizens who swear under oath that they saw 100,000 ballots come in and that they were all for Joe Biden. I should point out now that Sidney has spoken, that those happened just around the time that the Dominion or Smartmatic people called a halt to the election. Then you can also trace it with a very big spike in the vote count at exactly that time [crosstalk 01:03:22] right up. So what weโre telling you is supported by evidence, and weโre going to have to present these, because of the procedures that exist according to the different voting laws of the different states. For example, you asked us about Wisconsin. We have to first create a contest in Wisconsin before we can move to bringing a fulsome federal lawsuit. The contest, from everything I can see, is going to overturn the vote, because itโs going to show somewhere around 100,000 illegal ballots in two counties that Biden carried by 75, 80% and you know how close Wisconsin is. What Iโm talking about is the absentee ballots for which there were no applications.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:04:16)
Thatโs not just a small matter. The reason for the application and the reason to keep all these things together is precisely to avoid what the Democrats did in this election, which is to misuse the absentee ballot process and the mail-in ballot process in order to cheat. So they really cheated in two respects. They cheated with the machinesโฆ Instead of asking me, โAre we going to bring a lawsuit in Wisconsin?โ Which we will, if we have to, you should have asked me and you should be more astounded by the fact that our votes are counted in Germany and in Spain, by a company owned by affiliates of Chavez and Maduro. Did you ever believe that was true? Did any of you here believe that that was possible? Of course, it shouldnโt be possible. I donโt know if weโre going to have time to develop all that in time to fill the requirements of all these cases.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:05:23)
We have enough evidence without that to overturn this election. We have it from the affidavits of American citizens, but thatโs a matter of national security that weโre talking about now, very, very serious matter of national security. Please donโt make light of it and donโt act like you knew it, donโt act like it isnโt a surprise. If thatโs not a headline tomorrow, then you donโt know what a headline is. There isnโt a single person in this country that would have believed that we have states that are stupid enough to have our vote sent out of this country. You couldnโt possibly believe that the company counting our vote, with control over our vote is owned by two Venezuelans who were allies of Chavez, are present allies of Maduro, with a company whose Chairman is a close associate and business partner of George Soros the biggest donor to the Democrat party, the biggest donor to Antifa, and the biggest donor of Black Lives Matter. My goodness, what do we have to do to get you to give our people the truth? Yes.
Lin Suarz: (01:06:36)
Thank you, Giuliani. My name is Lin [Suarz 01:06:39] with RSBN, some on this legal team have mentioned before that people close to the Trump campaign are pressuring them to drop the investigation into Dominion. Can you go further into detail and tell us specifically who those people are? Also, if itโs possible, can you tell us if they work with some of our powerful defense groups in the United States, such as the CIA?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:07:00)
The last part was, do they workโฆ
Lin Suarz: (01:07:04)
With defense groups.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:07:05)
With defense groups and the CIA? First, Iโm in charge of this investigation with Sidney and the people that you see here. Thereโs been no pressure to stop investigating Dominion.
Lin Suarz: (01:07:18)
No oneโs pressuring you all to stop-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:07:20)
No, thereโs pressure to go as fast as we can. I mean, I think there was uniform shock when we first heard it. I think when I first heard it, I didnโt believe it until Sidney showed me the documents. In fact, I feel kind of stupid and you all should, because all you had to do is go online and find out that Smartmatic is owned by Venezuelans close to Chavez. You can Google it, well, unless they take it down. I preserved it. So you can find it. By the way, the [Coomer 01:07:51] character who is close to Antifa, took off all of his social media. Aha! But we kept it, weโve got it. The man is a vicious, vicious man. He wrote horrible things about the President. He is completely biased. Heโs completely warped and he specifically says that theyโre going to fix this election. I donโt know what you need to wake you up, to do your job and inform the American people, whether you like it or not, of the things they need to know. This is real. It is not made up. Thereโs nobody here that engages in fantasies. Iโve tried 100 cases. I prosecuted some of the most dangerous criminals in the world. I know crimes. I can smell them. You donโt have to smell this one, I can prove it to you 18 different ways. I can prove to you that he won Pennsylvania by 300,000 votes. I can prove to you that he won Michigan by probably 50,000 votes. When I went to bed on election night, he was ahead in all those States, every single one of those States, how is it they all-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:09:03)
In all those states, every single one of those states, how is it they all turned around? Every single one of them turned around? Or is it more consistent there was a plan to turn them around? And since there are witnesses who say there was a plan to turn them around, and it kind of begs credulity to say that it all happened in every single state. My goodness, this is how you win cases in a courtroom.
Reporter 4: (01:09:26)
Sir, is it your goal to execute [inaudible 01:09:29] officials and lawmakers in these Battleground States to block or delay certification so the GOP can pick their own electors? Is that the end game here?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:09:41)
Our goal here is to go around the iron curtain of censorship. What publication are you with?
Reporter 4: (01:09:48)
CNN.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:09:52)
Itโs to go around the outrageous iron curtain of censorship, and get facts to the American people that if you were a fair and honest network, youโd have been reporting for the last two weeks. These are facts. These are things that actually happened. These people really wrote these affidavits. These affidavits are really part of the public record. Youโre concealing them, youโre covering them up, and our role here is to do your job, because you donโt do it.
Reporter 3: (01:10:23)
Mr. Mayor. Affidavits. [crosstalk 01:10:27].
Rudy Giuliani: (01:10:23)
Chanel?
Chanel: (01:10:27)
Mr. Mayor, thank you and to Ms. [inaudible 01:10:30] as well. Where is our FBI? And have they expressed any interest whatsoever, in looking into allegations of voter fraud and election fraud that you have pointed out in these six states?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:10:41)
Come on, you have to have a little humor.
Sidney Powell: (01:10:44)
We have witnesses who have actually reported-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:10:47)
Where are you FBI?
Sidney Powell (01:10:49)
โฆ and nothingโs happened as a result of it.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:10:51)
I donโt know where the FBI has been for the last three years. I have no idea where the FBI has been for the last four years. Explain to me how the FBI concealed a memo in the hand of Brennan to Obama saying that Hillary basically made up the Russia collusion pot. They would held that for four years and cost our country $40 million and two impeachment. One attempted one actual and then an acquittal proceeding. I donโt know where theyโve been. I donโt know where they were on the hard drive. They got it, eight, 10 months ago. There are clear crimes revealed on it. Didnโt do anything with that. I donโt know where they are now. Our country has had its ballots counted, calculated, and manipulated in a foreign country with a company controlled by friends of an enemy of the United States. What do we have to do to get the FBI to wake up? Maybe we need a new agency to protect us. I have no idea.
Sidney Powell: (01:11:58)
If I may speak for just a minute. In terms of the level of corruption we are looking at here, we have no idea how many Republican or Democratic candidates in any state across the country paid to have the system rigged to work for them. These people didnโt do this just to take control. They make one heck of a lot of money off of it. Think about the global interests behind your own news organizations. Think about the pressure being brought to bear from the social media companies to shut down free speech on any challenge to the election. This is a massive, well-funded, coordinated effort to deprive we, the people of the United States of our most fundamental right under the constitution to preserve this Republic that we all cherish. It is of the greatest concern. It is the 1775 of our generation and beyond.
Reporter 5: (01:12:55)
Sidney, speaking of our votes being held and processed tabulated overseas, there was reports that there was a piece of hardware, probably a server picked up in Germany. Is that true, and is it related to this?
Sidney Powell: (01:13:12)
That is true. It is somehow related to this, but I do not know whether good guys got it or bad guys got it.
Reporter 5: (01:13:18)
Well, we donโt know who [inaudible 01:13:19]?
Sidney Powell: (01:13:25)
I can only hear one person at the time. Iโm going to take the one with the hands raised.
Reporter 7: (01:13:29)
Iโm with Just The News, [inaudible 01:13:31] outlets. So question for you, Sidney, first on the issue of the machines, are you taking a court order to either seize or subpoena or just to gain access to any of these machines in any of these contested districts, have you begun that process? And when do we expect the timeline on that? And then for you, Mr. Mayor, you mentioned in Wisconsin and in Michigan these issues of over voting, where can we learn more about that? Youโre saying 150, 200%-
Sidney Powell: (01:13:59)
Up to 350% in some places.
Reporter 7: (01:14:03)
Where would we get access to that data? And then to what extent were those people who showed up to vote in person? Because in Michigan, for example, they did allow same day registration.
Sidney Powell: (01:14:16)
Yes, well, the same day registration causes problems with the vote signature and the registration itself. Thatโs a whole different system that makes it impossible, really to validate the signature. One person could sign the same name. I could sign John Smith, I could sign K Smith. I could sign on both things and run 50 ballots that way. And weโve got some evidence of that being done as well. Rudy, do you want to speak to the other part of it?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:14:45)
Sure. We have now, three over vote analysis done. One for Pennsylvania, one for Michigan And one for Wisconsin. Weโre in the process โฆ oh, Iโm sorry, Georgia. Weโre in the process of doing the others. Iโll check to see if itโs appropriate for us to make it public. I imagine it is, but you could do it yourself.
Sidney Powell: (01:15:15)
A lot of the analysis comes from the real time data that came through to the news medias the night and following the election. And some interim entrepreneurs out there have started crunching data themselves in addition to multiple experts who could easily recognize with the mathematical brain that I do not have, beyond explicable deviations to the point of mathematical impossibility that 186,000 votes come in at once, all for Joe Biden. Thatโs like flipping a coin 186,000 times and it lands on heads every time. That does not happen. There is no reasonable explanation for the up shoots, the straight lines up. Iโm not even talking about an angle. Iโm talking about some massive straight lines up in the vote tallies in the middle of the night after theyโve supposedly stopped counting. And thatโs [inaudible 01:16:13] went in injected votes and changed the whole system. And it affects votes around the country, around the world, and all kinds of massive interests of globalist dictators, corporations, you name it. Everybodyโs against us except President Trump. And we, the people of the United States.
Reporter 8: (01:16:35)
You spoke of unleashing the Kraken. Is the country ready for this? Americans should be astonished what youโre saying here today. Is the country on the verge of an electoral breakdown?
Sidney Powell: (01:16:47)
Weโve already had it. Weโve already had that electoral breakdown. But the constitution as Jenna explains, has provisions in it for how you fix this. And there should never be another election conducted in this country, I donโt care if itโs for a local dog catcher, using a Dominion machine and Smartmatic software. Weโve got to have an American company that uses paper ballots that we can all verify. So every one of us can see that our vote is our vote.
Reporter 9: (01:17:16)
Why are you not requesting recounts in Wisconsin that used Dominion software. Youโre requesting recount in two counties that donโt use the software at all.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:17:26)
Remember this case, didnโt begin with Dominion. This case began, and this case can be proven the old fashioned way. It can be proven based on just good old fashioned democratic tactics to go back to Mayor Daley in the 1960s, when he held the vote back in Chicago so that he could elect John F. Kennedy.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:17:46)
Or as recently as last year, when they held the vote back in Palm Beach County and Broward County, in order to see if they could steal that for the Senate and governor, and then got caught manufacturing ballots. Democrats have been doing this for years on a small scale. When they passed the mail in voters statute, which all of a sudden multiplied by 10 times the number of mail in votes, they realized they could have a field day. They could do precisely what Jimmy Carter and Secretary Baker warned us about. All you have to do is own an election board, and you can get away with it. And unlike what Sidney is talking about, where you could have a paper trail, a paper ballot, I tried to point out to you, the minute that you separate the outer envelope from the ballot, you can no longer trace it, which is why whatever the count in Georgia today is, itโs totally ridiculous. Theyโre counting the same fraudulent ballots one more time. And weโre still very close.
Reporter 10: (01:18:51)
Mr. Mayor, so far, no single court has found evidence of fraud. Thatโs got to be disappointing for you and the president. How would you describe his mood at the moment? And do you and him still genuinely believe you can overturn this election or is it about something bigger for you?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:19:09)
Well, it is about something. Letโs go from the big picture to the smaller picture. The most important thing here is that this has been a massive attack on the integrity of the voting system in the greatest democracy on earth. The people who did this have committed one of the worst crimes that Iโve ever seen or observed. One of the things weโre the most proud of in this country is that weโve been such a longstanding democracy based on the right to vote. They have trashed the right to vote. Theyโve dishonored the right to vote. Theyโve destroyed the right to vote in their greed for power and money. And thereโs no doubt about it. This was not an individual idea of 10 or 12 Democrat bosses. This is a plan. You would have to be a fool not to realize that. They do the same thing in exactly the same way in 10 big Democrat controlled, in most cases, crooked city.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:20:08)
And when I say crooked city, go look at how many of their officials have gone to jail in the last 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 years, that they have dominated and destroyed those cities. They picked the places where they could get away with it. They pick the places where, whether or not Republicans testified to something, judges would just dismiss it. Because judges are appointed politically and too many of them are hacks. They pick places where they could get a sheriff that refused to enforce a court order. When we got a court order that we could be 10 feet closer, our representatives were told, โIf you try to do it, Iโll arrest.โ
Reporter 10: (01:20:54)
Youโre painting a portrait of a national conspiracy suggesting that Joe Biden was a happy part of that-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:21:01)
Part one, it began as a national conspiracy, clearly. That evidence emerged very, very quickly. The minute I saw that it was the same thing in 10 states, just using logic. I said, This canโt be an accident.โ And then what I was surprised about is the dimension of it. Not inspecting almost 700,000 ballots is astounding.
Reporter 10: (01:21:30)
If youโre suggesting a Joe Biden was paused that conspiracy, I just wonder what your evidence-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:21:32)
Honestly, I donโt know what Joe Biden is aware of or not aware of. And I mean that as a lawyer, not trying to be cute. Iโve watched him, Iโve observed him. I honestly donโt know how much heโs aware. I donโt know how much he decides and how much things are decided for him. So I-
Reporter11: (01:21:53)
Let me just address one other thing to your question about the process. Your question is fundamentally flawed when youโre asking, whereโs the evidence? You clearly donโt understand the legal process. What we have asked for in the court is to not have the certification of false results. And so to say, โHold on a minute, we have evidence that we will present to the court.โ We havenโt had the opportunity yet to present that to the court.
Reporter 11: (01:22:19)
Weโre giving you an overview and a preview of what weโve discovered, but no court yet, has had that opportunity. And we have fraud allegations pending. So what weโve asked for are temporary restraining orders or injunctions to not certify false results. Weโre very happy that Michigan, the reason we dismissed that lawsuit today is because the Michigan County in Wayne County, theyโre not going to certify that because 71% of counties have inconsistent data. No person in this room or in this country should want states to rush through and coronate a president with false results. We have to make sure that the results are accurate. Thatโs what we will prove.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:23:01)
Two more questions.
Reporter 12: (01:23:01)
The secretary of state says that that canโt actually happen. That those votes canโt be rescinded and that [inaudible 01:23:06] in Michigan currently stands.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:23:04)
Secretary of state where?
Reporter 12: (01:23:04)
In Michigan.
Sidney Powell: (01:23:11)
Yeah, theyโve got problems in Michigan. Follow the money.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:23:14)
Follow the political party, man. Youโre actually seriously going to want me to take seriously the secretary of state of Michigan? When the secretary of state of Michigan never bothered to find out that the votes in her state were being counted in Germany, by a Venezuelan company? And you want me to take her seriously or him seriously? I was in government. If I were the governor of that state, Iโd fire, everybody that was involved in this election.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:23:48)
They didnโt come and tell me that my state was going to embarrassed, made a fool of, because Iโm sending my votes of people in Michigan over to Germany to be counted by a company that is owned by people who are allies of Maduro and Chavez? By the way, Carolyn Maloney, who wrote that, is my Congresswoman. A Democrat pointed that out. They didnโt do the darndest bit of due diligence. If you bought a $10 million company, you would have done more due diligence on that. Maybe theyโre incompetent, or maybe they didnโt want to know. But youโre not going to have me take seriously anything that comes from anyone involved in the election the way it was conducted in Michigan.
Reporter 12: (01:24:31)
But you guys are saying that those votes have been rescinded, they havenโt. The secretary of state there said that they canโt be.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:24:37)
The secretary of state can say whatever she wants to say. Of course, sheโs going to say that, sheโs a Democrat. She could also credit the affidavits of the two people and say that the board is tied and therefore the vote hasnโt been certified. So because sheโs a Democrat, sheโs saying that. Do you think she has any credibility, having run the kind of election they ran in Michigan? You think anyone in that government has credibility, after using a machine and fooling their citizens? There canโt be a person in Michigan who thought their vote was being sent outside of the United States so somebody could play with it. Itโs disgraceful what the government of Michigan did to its citizens. Absolutely disgraceful.
Reporter 13: (01:25:17)
Last question.
Reporter14: (01:25:18)
Mr. Mayor, just to go back to the servers. Are you going to be able to get your hands on the voting machines or the servers? Are you going to be able to see [crosstalk 01:25:32]-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:25:33)
We are limited in what we can do. Weโre not the FBI. Weโre not the government. We donโt have that kind of subpoena power. We donโt have the power to just go subpoena anything we want, the government does. We would have to subpoena in line with a case. Our first case weโre asking for that authority in Pennsylvania and in Michigan. But you have to get that authority from the court. Weโre private citizens. Weโre not the government. If I were the government, like I used to be, thereโd probably be a lot of people were arrested by now. Because thereโs plenty of probable cause, plenty of probable cause.
Reporter 14: (01:26:11)
[crosstalk 01:26:15].
Reporter 15: (01:26:15)
You allege that Donald Trump has won by a landslide. Weโve seen that a lot of your lawsuits and in fact, lawyers have been kind of dropping like flies. What do you say to those people who call this a Russia Gate 2.0, just on the other side? Also, why didnโt [crosstalk 00:17:35]-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:26:35)
What fake network do you come from?
Reporter 15: (01:26:39)
I donโt have come form a fake network. In fact, I am completely independent and I have no one about my head.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:26:43)
Oh my goodness. Well, first of all, our cases havenโt been dismissed. We only have-
Reporter 15: (01:26:49)
Over 20.
Reporter11: (01:26:50)
Look at the plaintiffs who were involved in this.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:26:53)
Itโs not our case, maโam. Donโt lie to people.
Reporter 15: (01:26:56)
Iโm saying what do you say to people who call this [crosstalk 00:18:01]-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:26:57)
Maโam, youโre lying. Youโre lying. Continue to lie. Iโm not-
Reporter15: (01:27:06)
Way over their head.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:27:08)
Maโam, okay. Let me answer the question. Let me answer the question. The answer to the question is, we donโt have a lot of lawsuits, we only have three. Our lawsuits have not been dropped all over the place. [crosstalk 01:27:25]okay. Well, youโre a totally discourteous person. Iโm going to finish my answer.
Reporter 15: (01:27:30)
Iโm actually really nice.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:27:31)
So Iโm going to finish my answer. The fact is we have very, very few lawsuits. The lawsuits youโre talking about have been brought by private individuals and groups. Most of them were dismissed for lack of standing, probably correctly. Because they were brought before the election took place.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:27:47)
The election is now over. The only lawsuit we have withdrawn is the one where we got the relief that we wanted. And thatโs the one in Michigan. We also have another lawsuit in Michigan that will accomplish the other objectives of what we want to do in Michigan. So itโs silly to have two competing lawsuits. The only lawyer that left a case left because he was threatened, his family was threatened, his children were threatened. And so was the other lawyer. Yeah, thatโs true. We have a little difficulty getting lawyers because our lawyers get threatened with being killed. Because of the ridiculous way in which you cover this and the ridiculous way in which you cover-
Reporter 15: (01:28:23)
You havenโt seen how I cover this-
Rudy Giuliani: (01:28:25)
Iโm not talking about you. Iโm talking about everybody, but I get a pretty good sense from the way you handle yourself, how you cover it. All right. Weโre finished with you now. One last question. One last question. One last question. [crosstalk 01:28:42] One last question from a reasonable, civil person. You are not. Yes?
Reporter 16: (01:28:48)
Iโm not a reasonable person?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:28:49)
No. Her. She isnโt.
Reporter 16: (01:28:50)
All right.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:28:50)
Well, weโll find out.
Reporter 16: (01:28:51)
Iโm from the Daily Caller, for the record.
Reporter 15: (01:28:53)
Oh, there we go.
Reporter 16: (01:28:54)
If the courts donโt let you present these cases like Jenna just said, will you give the entire bulk of the evidence to the media to review? And if so, when? Are you going to drag this thing out like the Hunter Biden hard drive again?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:29:07)
Weโre not going to drag it out. This is ridiculous for you to say weโre dragging it out. Al Gore had a lot more time than weโve had, and weโve had two weeks to investigate. So thatโs also completely unfair to say weโre dragging it out. Also, if weโre going to present things in court, if we present it to you, judges are not going to be very happy with us. And finally, I have to tell you, our witnesses donโt want to be exposed to the tender mercies of a vicious press. I have great difficulty getting those witnesses that I did reveal to allow me to do it. They donโt trust you. They donโt like you. They think you put their lives in jeopardy with the spin that you put on whatโs going on here and with the unfairness in which you cover it, itโs not easy to reveal the things that they tell me.
Reporter 16: (01:29:53)
So the answer is no?
Rudy Giuliani: (01:29:53)
The answer is I canโt do it because I canโt put a witnesses life in jeopardy or a person who thinks their life is in jeopardy. This woman tells me we have lawyers dropping out of the case. We have lawyers dropping out of the case because theyโre being threatened with destruction of their careers, destruction of their livelihood, and in some cases, destruction of their lives. That comes about because of the hysterical way in which you have covered Donald Trump and his administration. But weโre going to change all that. Weโre going to go to courts, weโre going to prove it in court.
Rudy Giuliani: (01:30:24)
I would love to release all the information that I have. I would love to give it to you all. Except most of you wouldnโt cover it. A few of you would, and then weโd have half the American people probably informed. The censorship that is going on in this country right now by big tech and by big media, is almost as dangerous as the election fraud that weโre revealing, maybe just as dangerous. Weโre headed to a very bad place and it is not inappropriate that a Venezuelan company counted our votes. Thank you.
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