Dr. Anthony Fauci admits to Dr. Rand Paul that there is no scientific evidence that booster vaccines given to children reduce hospitalization or death, however, the vaccines do have side effects that can be detrimental to children.
Dr. Rand Paul: Dr. Fauci, the government recommends everybody take a booster over age 5. Are you aware of any studies that show reduction and hospitalization or death for children who take a boost.
Dr. Anthony Fauci: Right now there’s not enough data that has been accumulated, Senator Paul, to indicate that that’s the case. The, I believe that the recommendation that was made was based on the assumption that if you look at the morbidity and mortality of children within each of the age groups, you know, 0 by 5 to 5 to 11 . . .
Dr. Rand Paul: So there are no studies, and Americans should all know this. There are no studies on children showing a reduction in hospitalization or death with taking a booster. The only studies that were permitted, the only studies that were presented, we’re antibody studies. So they say, “if we give you a booster you make antibodies.” A lot of scientists would question whether or not that’s proof of efficacy of a vaccine. If I give you 10, or if I give a patient 10 mRNA vaccines and they make protein each time, or they making antibodies each time, is that proof that we should give 10 boosters, Dr. Fauci?
Dr. Anthony Fauci: No that, I think that is somewhat of an absurd exaggeration, Senator Paul.
Dr. Rand Paul: Well, that is the proof that you use. Your committee used that. That’s the only proof you have to tell children to take a boosters is that they make a antibiotics. So it’s not an absurdity. You’re already at like 5 boosters for people. You’ve had, you know, 2 or 3 boosters. It’s like, where is the proof? Now, I think there is probably some indication for older folks that have some risk factors. For younger folks there’s not. But here’s the other thing, there are some risk factors for the, for the vaccine. So the risk of myocarditis with the second dose for adolescent boys 12 to 24 is about 80 in a million. This is both from the CDC and from the Israeli study. It’s also in the VAERs study. Remarkably similar for boys, much higher in boys than girls, in much higher than the background. The backgrounds about 2 per million. So there is risk. There are risks and you’re telling everybody in America to just blindly go out there because we made antibodies. So it is not an absurd corollary to say you have 10. In fact, you probably make antibodies if you get 100 boosters, all right. That’s not science, that’s conjecture, and we should not be making public policy on it.
Dr. Anthony Fauci: So, Senator Paul, if I might respond to that. We just heard in his opening statement ranking member talk about his staff who went to Israel, and if you look at the data from Israel, with a boosts, both the third shot boost and the fourth shot boost was associated with a clear-cut clinical affect, mostly in elderly people, but also as they gathered more data, even in people in the 40s and the 50s. So there is clinical data . . .
Dr. Rand Paul: But not in children.
Dr. Anthony Fauci: Well . . .
Dr. Rand Paul: We, here’s the thing is, you’re not willing to be honest with you American people. So for example, 75% of kids have had the disease. Why is the CDC not including this in the data? You can ask the question. You can do laboratory tests to find out who’s at it and who hasn’t had the disease. What is the incidence of hospitalization and death for children who’ve been infected with COVID subsequently going to hospital or dying? What, what is what is the possibility if your kid has had COVID, which is 75% a countries had covid, what is the chance of my child’s going to the hospital or dying?
Dr. Anthony Fauci: If you look at the number of deaths in pediatrics, Senator, you can see that there are more deaths . . .
Dr. Rand Paul: In people who have had it. Of people who have had the disease.
Dr. Anthony Fauci: Senator, we also know from other studies that the optimal degree of protection when you get infection is to get vaccinated after infection and in fact showing reinfection in the era of Omicron and the sub lineages that vaccinations can . . .
Dr. Rand Paul: But you can’t answer the question I asked. The question I ask is how many kids are dying and how many kids are going to the hospital who’ve already had COVID? The answer may be zero, but you’re not even giving us the data because you have so much wanted to protect everybody from all the data, because we’re not smart enough to look at the data. When you released data earlier, when the CDC released the data, they left out the category of 18 to 49, on whether or not there’s a health benefit for for adults 18-49. Why was it left out? When critics finally complained, it was finally included, because there was no health benefit from taking a booster between the 18 to 49 in the CDC study.