Rubio Meets With Pope Leo at the Vatican

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The U.S. secretary of state, who is himself a Catholic, is on a two day visit to Rome, which will also see him meet Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with Pope Leo XIV at the Vatican on May 7, amid a war of words that has broken out between the head of the Catholic Church and U.S. President Donald Trump.

Rubio, who also serves as Trump’s national security adviser, arrived at the Apostolic Palace around 11:10 a.m. local time for the visit, which will be the first between the pontiff and a Trump Cabinet official in almost a year.

The secretary of state was at the Vatican for around two hours before driving away in a convoy, during which time he met with Leo before sitting down with senior Vatican officials, including his opposite number at the Holy See, Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin.

Neither the Vatican nor the U.S. State Department provided any immediate details about the meetings.

Parolin, on May 6, described Trump’s recent remarks about the pope as “a bit strange,” but stressed that the Holy See still valued its relationship with Washington, saying that the White House had requested the audience, and that the pope was open to continued dialogue.

“How can one do without the United States? One cannot do without the United States,” Parolin said, according to Vatican News.

“Despite some difficulties occurring, they certainly remain an interlocutor for the Holy See. Also, because they have a role in almost all the situations we are experiencing today.”

Leo, the first American to hold the papacy, drew criticisms from Trump after comments he made regarding the Iran war and the administration’s immigration policies.

Trump most recently criticized the pope on May 4 for saying he believed it was OK for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons.

“The Pope would rather talk about the fact that it’s OK for Iran to have a nuclear weapon,” Trump told Hugh Hewitt in a radio interview.

“I think he’s endangering a lot of Catholics and a lot of people. But I guess if it’s up to the Pope, he thinks it’s just fine for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”

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